Andrew Marchant Steven Dain Patrick McCormick Martin Hurrell Maria Hendrickson Terri Monk Monica Harry Ian Green Jane Millar Zac Whitewood-Moores Ellen Torres Jeremy RogersSteven Dain Sander Mertens Ingrid MertensChristine Spisla Grant Forrest Charles Gutteridge
Anesthesia Clinical Reference Group
Time: Tuesday, April 4, 2023 14:30 - 16:30 UTC / 15:30 - 17:30 UK BST / 10:30 - 12:30 ET
Location: Exchange Room, Andaz Liverpool Street, London, UK
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|Introductions and Apologies
Matters arising from the previous meeting notes
|2023-03-28 Anesthesia CRG Meeting
Organisations this group can reach out to:
Patrick McCormick has in the past spoken to American specialist societies in Anaesthesia and has found interest but little concrete engagement. Jane Millar will discuss our list with Ian Green and consider where we can build bridges towards further engagement. There was a general acceptance that it will be easier to build engagement when we have specific projects which require broader clinical input. Grant Forrest noted that AAGBI and RCOA are not coordinating work in this area, which the group regrets. A UK-based project to develop a common "Anaesthetic Chart" has produced a research paper - the preliminary results are due to be presented at SCATA's ASM in Glasgow in June 2023. Workshops held in 2022 co-sponsored by the RCoA and the PRSB failed to produce any tangible outputs, at least so far. This probably reflects the inherent complexity of the care episode, something that SCATA has been mapping out in a series of diagrams, based on the UK National Anaesthesia Record Project.
|Review of Prior CRG Work
List of prior work here:
Restructuring of Local anesthesia (procedure) hierarchy - https://jira.ihtsdotools.org/browse/IHTSDO-661
Nerve blocks - https://jira.ihtsdotools.org/browse/IHTSDO-376
Work on ventilator terms, particularly by Steven Dain , was noted.
Recent work on nerve block nomenclature standardization
Monica Harry noted that terminology related to Nerve Blocks is ripe for review. The difficulty of finding consistent terminology in current practice was noted. Previous discussions in the Anesthesia SIG were noted (inc 2015 document ref artf7623). There is further discussion of this in the paper by El-Boghdadly et al:
|Review of Semantic Associations within Anesthesia Terms
Semantic associations between anesthesia SNOMED terms are likely of more importance going forward. CRG could create an organized plan to review and if necessary amend semantic relationships between key concepts.
Is it worth removing postcoordinated "anesthesia for xxx procedure" terms? Monica Harry will discuss this with Jim Case.
|Anesthesia Implementation Guide Discussion
Discussion about what would be required to create an Anesthesia Implementation Guide.
Example from Allergy group:
Related work, suggested by Jane Millar , might be to review the data required to represent a contemporary anesthesia record and check that SNOMED can represent these.
Cancer Synoptic Reporting Group also working on implementation guide
Questions for Anesthesia CRG:
Jane Millar and Ian Green will review the benefit that an implementation guide and consider whether this is a useful and practical idea. The group noted Peter Williams as one potential contributor to a ppractical discusssion.
Date of next meeting
Tuesday May 23, 2023