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How is concept | General mental state (finding) | different from | Mental state (finding)| ?

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  1. All -

    What are your thoughts about inactivating

    • | General mental state (observable entity) | as duplicate of | Mental state (observable entity) | 
    • | General mental state finding (finding) | as duplicate of | Mental state finding (finding) |

    There are 4 concepts that use | General mental state (observable entity) | in their definitions. (see screen-shot below)

    • 1 concept sub hierarchy | General mental state finding (finding) |
    • 3 child concepts of the above 

    Each of the child concepts could also be modified as follows:

    1. |Mental health problem (finding) |  seems that it would be a child of both | Mental state, behavior and/or psychosocial function finding (finding) | and | Problem (finding) | 
    2. | Cooperative mental state (finding) | seems ambiguous - could be replaced with cooperative attitude or cooperative behavior?? 
    3. | Inadequate personality (finding) | looks like an outdated concept (DSM-II) but for now could be moved to the | Personality AND/OR personality trait (finding) | hierarchy until we've had a chance to do a deeper dive on personality traits and disorders??

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    Thoughts?

  2. Both of these terms originated in the first release of SNOMED CT, so have been in the terminology since 2002.  Neither of them have a mapping to ICD-10 and only one of them, 36456004 |Mental state finding (finding)| appears with any frequency on the UK high usage report.  We do not have a way of representing "generalized" concepts and the only reason the concept 365928004 |General mental state finding (finding)| is sufficiently defined is because an analogous observable entity was created.  It is unclear to me what the benefit of this grouper is and so I would not be opposed to inactivating the "general" concepts is the mental health group finds them non-useful.

  3. Thanks Jim Case.

    We will discuss this on our next call to get consensus from SMEs that its okay to inactivate.