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Assumptions and Audience
Introducing SNOMED to a FHIR audience and FHIR to a SNOMED Audience!Explanation of 4 levels of binding.Code, Coding, Codeable Concept as specific to SNOMED CT (include link to introduction and points about display terms & multiple languages).
These pages are currently transitioning into the SNOMED GitHub pages. See https://github.com/IHTSDO/snomed-ig
HL7 currently provide a daily build view of that which can be seen here: http://build.fhir.org/ig/IHTSDO/snomed-ig/
- Link to benefits of using SNOMED CT
- Interoperability (synergy in using two world leading standards).
- Distinction between Terminology Services and Binding
- Linda Bird 's material on choices to be made in selecting elements eg conflict resolution due to overlapping semantics.
- Peter G. Williams copy material from Linda's PPT
▪Do we restrict value sets to ensure that the same information cannot be represented in 2 different ways
▪The same semantics can’t be included in 2 data elements
▪The same semantics can’t be included in 2 resources
▪How widely do we require/recommend CT is used across each resource (e.g. vital signs, statuses)
▪Which of these are potentially in scope?
▪Restricting value sets to specific subhierarchies
▪New value sets for elements not using SNOMED CT
▪Restricting cardinalities to reduce ambiguity
▪Splicing to align with SNOMED CT concept model
▪Mapping FHIR value sets to SNOMED CT (e.g. status)
▪Defining SNOMED CT templates to support transformations
SNOMED specific behaviours
- Emphasise use of Code field.
- Links to other SNOMED using profiles (held elsewhere)
- Considerations that were made as part of these profiles
- Pull summary from Dion's validate code page
- Peter G. Williamspull Dion's validate code work.
Design Notes specific to Client Applications
Option for "pass-through" terminology requests so that FHIR server acts as proxy for Terminology Server. Operations such as Expand may need to make calls on to Terminology before collating results.
SNOMED Specific profiles (clinical resources)
Conflicts & Specialisation within a Resource
Many resources specify a "code" element which is the obvious location for a SNOMED CT code and this should be used where feasible. However, other fields may exist (often with multiple cardinality) that could potentially conflict or extend the meaning given by the code field. For example, in the Procedure Resource as well as the code, a message can supply (potentially multiple) bodysite codeable concepts.
So where a body site is NOT a child of the body site specified in code, what behaviour is expected?
Comment - issues with lack of relationship grouping (eg device with bodysite where multiple exist) and inability to specify whether the site is being accessed in a direct or indirect manner. We could, potentially, suggest enhancements to FHIR to bring its model into line with that of SNOMED to allow it to accurately state meaning using SNOMED CT concepts in an atomic manner, but what benefit would this give (plus ongoing maintenance overhead) when compared to using SNOMED CT in the first place?
Options for Handling Semantic Overlap
The following options could be considered to handle the semantic overlap between, say, Condition code and bodySite:
Any condition and any bodySite
Test Suites for using SNOMED with FHIR Servers
- Examples of REST calls and their expected results (using SNOMED where possible), with narrative including any associated business logic.
- Be sure to make FHIR version and SNOMED CT Edition for each test clear
- Pick SNOMED concepts that aren't likely to be retired any time soon. Some tests will be more vulnerable than others eg checking the number of concepts subsumed.
- Suggested to use and extend the test scripts used in previous Connectathons.
- Potential to save resources from "Postman" as an aide.
- Peter Jordan please provide examples from previous events as discussed.
- Peter Jordan & Michael Lawley update on in-week discussion.
Assumptions and Audience
Introducing SNOMED to a FHIR audience and FHIR to a SNOMED Audience!Explanation of 4 levels of binding.
Code, Coding, Codeable Concept as specific to SNOMED CT (include link to introduction and points about display terms & multiple languages).
What is the scope of content for the guide? Targeting "Best Practice" for FHIR Implementers using SNOMED CT. Possible layered approach and potentially strict (for internal record keeping and communication) vs permissive profiles when . General guidance for bindings or specific details on each resource.
Audiences - Developer vs User of implemented services. ML Suggests single entry point document with multiple paths through the documentation.
Existing Documentation to Pull In
Comparable Implementation Guides
- Rob Hausamto supply
See also https://simplifier.net/guides
Feedback for HL7
19 March 2019
These two pages seem to be very similar?
4 June - group agreed to target R4 in the first instance but to indicate any future changes inline. Also (PJ) suggested section on major changes from STU3 to R4 where relevant to SNOMED eg $compose is now $find-matches
2 July - PJ: question over specific content for different stakeholders (FHIR spec does this) and how we present that - separate pages for developers (details) vs architect (integration, general 'use' of terminology services eg off the shelf solution. Why use the FHIR API at all?) vs business level?
ML suggestion that we introduce SNOMED "through the lens of FHIR", so stay away from language reference sets and stick with what can be seen directly from FHIR resources. (But we can have links to the detail & implementation course - PJ)