Date: 2018-09-19

1600 - 1730 UTC

0900-1030 PDT

1200-1330 EDT

1300-1430 Argentina time

Zoom Meeting Details

SNOMED Int'l Editorial Advisory group

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Topic: SNOMED Editorial Advisory Group Conference Call

Time: Sep 19, 2018 1600 UTC

https://snomed.zoom.us/j/853419613

Attendees

Chair:

Jim Case

AG Members

Observers:

Apologies

Bruce Goldberg

Meeting Files

Meeting recording

The folder containing the meeting recordings is located here.

Objectives

Obtain consensus on agenda items

Discussion items

Item	Description	Owner	Notes	Discussion
1	Call to order and role call	JCA
2	Conflicts of interest Notice of recording	JCA	GRE - Contractor to SI, Principal in TermMed
	Approval of minutes from April business meeting	JCA	Edited transcripts of the discussion regarding the "Naked kernel" and the next generation of SNOMED are available here.
	ECE Update	BGO	Stroke modeling Modeling of CVA using GCIs.pptx	Continued to Face-to-face meeting
	Allergy and Intolerance update	BGO	Editorial guidelines for Jan. 2019 implementation of new models for allergy/hypersensitivity/intolerance content Hypersensitivity+allergy modeling guidelines_v6_20180706.docx 414029004 \|Disorder of immune function (disorder)\| revised model Allergic disorder model Intolerance to substance model	Continued to Face-to-face meeting
	Observables project group update	DKA	Issues from the vital signs modelling
	Strict hierarchy paper	KCA	Discuss this paper in light of the new drug model. Specifically how the new model resolves many of the issues with incorrect inferences related to the IS A hierarchy in substances. Smashing the strict hierarchy
	Update from TermMed: Naked kernel constructs	GRE	Batch editing of the disorder/findings hierarchy to transform it into a representation with a "naked kernel" clinical entities hierarchy (no soft defaults) Additional auxiliary hierarchies supporting better modeling patterns An observation/statement/assertion/phenomena hierarchy that would explicitly represent context (e.g. presence/absence) while supporting correct aggregation of some absence patterns.
	Historical association refset	JRO	Revisit the intended meaning and operational consequences of the nine subflavours of 900000000000522004\|Historical association reference set (foundation metadata concept)\| ‘historical associations’ are to be declared between inactive concepts and their candidate active (and so taxonomically reportable) substitute(s). Sections within the RefSets Practical and Terminology Services guide mention that such associations exist - though they’re rather silent on what you can or should do with them. No obviously visible guidance (e.g. in the new Editorial Guide) on how and why authors should decide what makes a ‘good association’ Not a lot of understanding of the possible consequences of a bad or missing one.
	Sources of truth	BGO	There is a need to establish a policy for deciding on the source of truth for determining the true meaning of a concept primary.pdf Truth_Finding_from_Multiple_Data_Sources.pdf Evaluating_Source_Credibility_2017v2.pdf 13584_2017_Article_138.pdf Source of truth.docx	Continued to Face-to-face meeting
	Followup on clinical statement model project group	JCA
	Agenda planning for Vancouver	JCA, EAG
	Future meetings	JCA

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