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MABH-CRG

27 Nov 2024

Discussion items

ItemDescriptionOwnerNotesAction
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116367006 | Psychological finding (finding) |

Clarify meaning

  • How does a psychological finding differ from a mental finding and a psychological function differ from a mental function
  • Is a psychological finding a more specific kind of mental finding?

Can we define these in a way that meets the URU criteria?

Google AI:

The URU criteria are a set of three criteria used to evaluate terminology, which stand for:

  • UnderstandabilityThe meaning can be communicated and understood by an average health care provider without needing to refer to hidden or private meanings
  • ReproducibilityMultiple people can understand and use the meaning in the same way
  • UsefulnessThe meaning has a demonstrable use or applicability to health or health care 

The URU criteria were part of the College of American Pathologists' evaluation metrics for terminologies.




  • Where psychological finding is only parent, add second parent 
  • Review other parents of psychological finding - add 363870007 | Mental state, behavior / psychosocial function
  • Add psychological finding as child of mental finding




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Emotion v. Emotion State (finding) AND Mental phenomenon v. Mental State (finding)

Problem: There is currently no way to express the idea of emotional or mental phenomena, only mental states and emotional states.

Compulsive behavior (finding) and Personality disorder (disorder) are represented as a types of mental state findings

Propose new concepts:

  • mental observable (observable)  or mental phenomenon (observable)
  • mental finding (finding)
  • emotion finding (finding) 

Discuss:

  • Is there value in a distinct concepts to represent the specific idea of a "point in time" emotion and "point in time" mental state, or should the "state" qualifier be removed for clarity?
  • Or... should both concepts exists - emotion finding + emotion state finding

Examples of concepts that are direct child concepts of Mental State along with some thoughts about why these may be better represented as child concepts of a more general | Mental finding (finding) | or | Mental phenomena finding (finding)| concept:

Note: Semantic tag has been removed when semantic tag is '(finding)'


  • SMEs evaluated sets of concepts under mental state finding (disorder v manifestation) following prior meeting

  • Elaine is working on a communication to outlining proposed plan to add 2 new finding and 1 new observable concept as outlined here
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25467004 |Hyperaffectivity (finding)|

Clarify meaning and position in hierarchy.  

Definition of affectivity (APA Dictionary):

APA dictionary of psychology have a definition of affectivity: the degree of a person’s response or susceptibility to pleasure, pain, and other emotional stimuli. Evaluation of affectivity is an important component of a psychological examination; the therapist or clinician may look for evidence of such reactions as blunted affect, inappropriate affect, loss of affect, ambivalence, depersonalization, elation, depression, or anxiety.

https://dictionary.apa.org/affectivity

Consider

  • Inactivate Is a relationship: 106131003 |Mood finding (finding)|
  • New Is a relationship: 288545008 |Showing emotion (finding)|

Discussion

  • distinct concept versus synonym?
  • issues - clinical value of the concept?
  • next steps - look at translations 

Rebecca/ Andrew - SYN




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  • 102498003 |Agony (finding)|

    Propose

    • Remove parent concept 225873007 | Finding relating to grief and dying (finding) |
    • Add parent concept 69328002 | Distress (finding) |
    • Add DEF:  Intense, negative experience typically occurring in the context of intense physical or emotional pain as often occurs in the context of impending death and extreme emotional trauma



Meeting Files

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PNG File image-2024-11-27_8-0-50.png 2024-Nov-27 by Piper Allyn Ranallo
Microsoft Excel Spreadsheet mental state.xlsx 2024-Nov-27 by Piper Allyn Ranallo
PNG File image-2024-11-27_11-37-43.png 2024-Nov-27 by Piper Allyn Ranallo


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