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20:00 UTC Wednesday 29 March 2017

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Goals

  • Agree upon proposed updates to Query specification reference set
  • Progress SNOMED template syntax

Attendees 

Apologies

Brian Carlsen

Agenda and Meeting Notes

Description
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Notes

Welcome, introductions and apologies

Linda Bird
 
Agenda review
Linda Bird
 
Query specification reference set proposals

Linda Bird

See examples discussed below.

Progress SNOMED template syntax

Linda Bird

WIP document: http://snomed.org/-sts
Confirm next meeting date/time
Linda Bird
Next meeting to be held at 20:00 UTC on Wednesday 12th April 2017

Query Reference Set - Examples Discussed

Example Instances - Option 1 (Linked on referencedComponentId/expansion set)

 Intensional definition reference set: 

ideffectiveTimeactivemoduleIdrefsetIdreferencedComponentId (expansionId)queryqueryLanguagequerySubstrate (is moduleId enough?)
1201707311M1R1 |My intensional ECL refset|R2 |My first simple expansion|
 <  404684003 |Clinical finding|
http://snomed.info/syntax/ecl/version/1.2http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008
2201707311M1R1 |My intensional ECL refset|R3 |My other simple expansion< 71388002 |Procedure|http://snomed.info/syntax/ecl/version/1.2http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008
3201801311M1R1 |My intensional ECL refset|Q3 |My third query|
<  404684003 |Clinical finding|  MINUS  307824009 |Administrative statuses|
http://snomed.info/syntax/ecl/version/1.2http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008

 Expansion history reference set:

ideffectiveTimeactivemoduleIdrefsetIdreferencedComponentId (expansionId)expansionSubstrate (not needed if use effectiveTime and moduleId as leaf module of edition?)
3201707311M1R1 |My intensional ECL refset|R2 |My first simple expansion|http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008/version/20170731
4201801311M1R1 |My intensional ECL refset|R3 |My other simple expansionhttp://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008/version/20180131 
5201807311M1R1 |My intensional ECL refset|R2 |My first simple expansion|http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008/version/20180731 

Example Instances - Option 2 (Linked on intensional queryId)

  Intensional definition reference set:

ideffectiveTimeactivemoduleIdrefsetIdreferencedComponentId (queryId)queryqueryLanguageauthoringSubstrate (is this needed?)
1201707311M1R1 |My intensional ECL refset|Q1 |My first query|
<  404684003 |Clinical finding|
http://snomed.info/syntax/ecl/version/1.2http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008
2201707311M1R1 |My intensional ECL refset|Q2 |My second query|< 71388002 |Procedure|http://snomed.info/syntax/ecl/version/1.2http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008
3201801311M1R1 |My intensional ECL refset|Q3 |My third query|
<  404684003 |Clinical finding|  MINUS  307824009 |Administrative statuses|
http://snomed.info/syntax/ecl/version/1.2http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008

 Expansion history reference set: 

ideffectiveTimeactivemoduleIdrefsetIdreferencedComponentId (expansionId)queryIdexpansionSubstrate (?)
3201707311M1R1 |My first expansion refset|R2 |My first simple refset|Q1 |My first query|http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008/version/20170731
4201801311M1R1 |My second expansion refset|R3 |My second simple refset|Q3 |My third query|http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008/version/20180131 
5201807311M1R1 |My third expansion refset|R2 |My first simple refset|Q3 |My third query|http://snomed.info/sct/900000000000207008/version/20180731

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2 Comments

  1. Michael Lawley

    Query spec reference set notes:

    1. Spec says "Simple type reference set", but QL will be able to generate much more in output
    2. Spec defines 900000000000513000 |Simple query specification|; maybe we should focus on a ECL-based version (which would exclude non-conceptids in results) since ECL is defined and QL is not?
    3. Note, QL requirements include lexical criteria but ECL does not.
    4. Refset members have meta-data properties like effectiveTime, moduleId; what should these be in for the intensional members?
    5. Which Version should the query be evaluated against?  

  2. Linda Bird

    I have included the reference set examples that we discussed today during the SLPG meeting (in the meeting agenda above). If there are further comments or thoughts on this, please let me know.

    Thanks!