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Date and time

2021-01-18 20.00 UTC

Objectives

Discuss and make progress on these issues:

  • Scale observables
  • EG

Discussion items

See below.


ItemDescriptionOwnerNotesAction
1Welcome & apologies

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2Conflicts of interest

None stated



3Minutes from previous meetingDaniel Karlsson


4Scale Observables
  • Scale/score Observables for anesthesia and clinical medicine
  • The Anesthesia CRG has submitted a paper to the EAG describing some of the problems of SNOMED in relation to modling of assessment scales (see Modelling of Assessment Scales in SNOMED CT.docx)


5Observables Editorial Guide

A review of existing Editorial Guide for Observables is due. Some pages seem dated. Comments to pages are done in a Google Doc herehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1dfDd-K4hP425O_7poTA8roZ_fkAKQj0l458LGob1FBM/edit?usp=sharing

2020-12-14:

Templates for quality and process observables.

Particularly, the boundary between quality and process observables might need discussion (presentation). There is (at least) a potential for inconsistencies unless there are clear guidance on when to use quality and process patterns respectively as there 

Sarah Harry what about e.g. clotting time?

2021-01-18:

Comments from SNOMED staff to the EG Google Doc was discussed. Comments were added to the document. "PG agreement" as a comment in the document indicates that the project group agreed to the comment above.


6Target observables

The issue of representation of target observables has been raised again in a Jira ticket.

The question the group needs to answer is whether targets and observables need to be seperated or to be kept apart. In practice, is there a requirement to query for both observables and "settings" alternatively is there a risk in having targets and observations mixed up?

One solution would be to (minimally) add a primitive parent "setting observable" (or just "setting") to all targets, settings, parameters, etc. in the current observables hierarchy.

2020-09-21:

Suzanne Santamaria shared with the nutrition group, will share with Jim Case

2020-11-16:

Release of content postponed to July 2021.

2020-12-14:

If time permits, go through comments from Jim Case.


7Next meeting

Next meeting is 2021-02-08 20.00UTC (NOT ON THE 3RD MONDAY)



8AOB




Meeting Files

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PNG File rel_time.png 2021-Jan-14 by Daniel Karlsson
PNG File serum.png 2021-Jan-14 by Daniel Karlsson
PNG File creatinine.png 2021-Jan-14 by Daniel Karlsson
PNG File ser_plasma.png 2021-Jan-14 by Daniel Karlsson
Microsoft Word Document Observable_EG_comments.docx 2021-Jan-14 by Daniel Karlsson
PNG File process_output.png 2021-Jan-14 by Daniel Karlsson
PNG File image2020-2-13_14-31-40.png 2021-Jan-14 by Daniel Karlsson
Microsoft Word Document References Modeling Assessment Scales in SNOMED CT v2.docx 2021-Jan-16 by James R. Campbell
Microsoft Word Document Modelling of Assessment Scales in SNOMED CT.docx 2021-Jan-16 by James R. Campbell
Microsoft Powerpoint Presentation Clinical Scale Scores.pptx 2021-Jan-18 by James R. Campbell

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