Andrew Williams - could this be used for a higher level general observation, i.e., , gestalt impression of a patient or something like a general clinical impression (finding) ?
Michael First - come up with an explicit definition for "state"
when would we use the term or concept of state
when we would not use the concept of state
Keep 247571009 | General mental state (observable entity) |
inactivate 365928004 | General mental state finding (finding) |
Create new concept | Cooperative attitude (finding) | and inactivate | Cooperative mental state (finding) | as MAY BE a | Cooperative attitude (finding) |
Make |Mental health problem (finding) child of | Problem (finding) | and | Mental state (finding) |
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Organic disorder
What is the definition of 'organic'? Only disorders caused by a biomedical condition or also disorders caused by a substance (i.e., a known or presumed physiological mechanism v. an unknown mechanism)
DSM5: Mental disorder due to another medical condition: There is evidence from the history, physical examination, or laboratory findings that the disturbance is the direct pathophysiological consequence of another medical condition
ICD11 Secondary mental or behavioural disorder: "syndromes characterised by the presence of prominent psychological or behavioural symptoms judged to be direct pathophysiological consequences of a medical condition not classified under mental and behavioural disorders"